In this week's episode of RealGM Radio, host Daniel Leroux talks with RealGM.com's Andrew Perna and Jonathan Santiago of Cowbell Kingdom.

Leroux and Perna discuss the Eastern Conference, focusing on the Pacers' hot start, the surprising Celtics, and the future of the Bucks.

Later, Santiago details the trials and tribulations of the Sacramento Kings' relocation saga, the plans for a new arena, and the future of the team on the court now that they are staying in Sacramento.

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