Jose Guitian C  #7

Current Team: Osos de Manati

Born: Jan 3, 1987 (37 years old)

Birthplace/Hometown: New York, New York

Nationality: United States / Puerto Rico

Height: 6-10 (208cm)     Weight: 200 (91kg)

Current NBA Status: Unrestricted Free Agent

Agent: Jose Paris Ramirez

Draft Entry: 2009 NBA Draft

Drafted: Undrafted

Pre-Draft Team: Lasell College (Sr)

High School: Miami Springs High School [Miami Springs, Florida]


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NBA

0 Years Of Service

NBA Transactions

Jun 25, 2009 - Jose Guitian went undrafted in the 2009 NBA Draft making him an Unrestricted FA.

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NCAA

College: Lasell College (2009)

NCAA Season Stats - Per Game

Season School Class GP GS MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OFF DEF TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
2005-06 Lasell College Fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2006-07 Lasell College So - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2007-08 Lasell College Jr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2008-09 Lasell College Sr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NCAA Season Stats - Totals

Season School Class GP GS MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OFF DEF TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
2005-06 Lasell College Fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2006-07 Lasell College So - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2007-08 Lasell College Jr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2008-09 Lasell College Sr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NCAA Season Stats - Misc Stats

Season School Class GP Dbl Dbl Tpl Dbl 40 Pts 20 Reb 20 Ast Techs HOB Ast/TO Stl/TO FT/FGA W's L's Win % OWS DWS WS
2005-06 Lasell College Fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2006-07 Lasell College So - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2007-08 Lasell College Jr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2008-09 Lasell College Sr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NCAA Season Stats - Advanced Stats

Season School Class GP TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% TOV% STL% BLK% USG% Total S % PPR PPS ORtg DRtg PER
2005-06 Lasell College Fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2006-07 Lasell College So - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2007-08 Lasell College Jr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2008-09 Lasell College Sr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

International Basketball

* International basketball history from 2000-2001

International Regular Season Stats - Per Game

Season Team League GP GS MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OFF DEF TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
2011-12 Atleticos de San German BSN 34 1 8.0 2.79 1.06 2.74 .387 0.38 1.24 .310 0.29 0.50 .588 0.94 1.44 2.38 0.65 0.24 0.24 0.26 1.06
2012-13 Atleticos de San German BSN 36 14 17.4 5.50 1.89 4.61 .410 1.31 3.19 .409 0.42 0.64 .652 0.97 2.08 3.06 0.78 0.44 0.22 0.81 2.25
2013-14 * All Teams All Leagues 45 9 11.7 2.71 1.00 2.91 .344 0.40 1.47 .273 0.31 0.56 .560 0.84 1.58 2.42 0.84 0.27 0.24 0.36 1.47
2013-14 * Vaqueros de Bayamon BSN 38 4 8.3 1.63 0.68 1.79 .382 0.24 0.79 .300 0.03 0.11 .250 0.76 1.24 2.00 0.79 0.21 0.13 0.29 1.29
2013-14 * Gigantes LNBP 4 2 25.6 6.75 2.50 9.00 .278 1.25 6.00 .208 0.50 0.50 1.000 1.25 3.25 4.50 1.50 1.00 1.50 1.25 2.75
2013-14 * Bucaros de Bucaramga Sudamericana 3 3 35.5 11.00 3.00 9.00 .333 1.33 4.00 .333 3.67 6.33 .579 1.33 3.67 5.00 0.67 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00
2014-15 Maratonistas de Coamo BSN 44 26 20.1 5.27 1.86 5.18 .360 1.02 3.16 .324 0.52 0.70 .742 0.95 2.64 3.59 1.05 0.43 0.45 0.57 2.57
2015-16 Santeros de Aguada BSN 48 34 21.1 6.33 2.02 5.33 .379 1.38 3.96 .347 0.88 1.15 .764 1.12 2.25 3.38 1.12 0.50 0.19 0.62 2.62
2016-17 Santeros de Aguada BSN 38 26 18.2 5.63 1.87 4.53 .413 1.29 3.47 .371 0.61 0.79 .767 0.79 2.68 3.47 1.55 0.21 0.24 0.55 2.32
2017-18 * All Teams All Leagues 49 10 16.6 5.61 1.90 4.31 .441 1.12 2.90 .387 0.69 0.86 .810 1.20 2.27 3.47 1.00 0.47 0.29 0.35 2.14
2017-18 * Leones de Ponce BSN 28 5 17.3 6.29 2.11 4.32 .488 1.32 3.11 .425 0.75 0.93 .808 1.11 2.36 3.46 0.68 0.50 0.29 0.36 2.39
2017-18 * Santeros de Aguada BSN 21 5 15.6 4.71 1.62 4.29 .378 0.86 2.62 .327 0.62 0.76 .813 1.33 2.14 3.48 1.43 0.43 0.29 0.33 1.81
2018-19 * All Teams All Leagues 85 38 20.7 8.02 2.72 6.05 .449 1.68 4.15 .405 0.88 1.18 .750 1.51 3.12 4.62 0.89 0.46 0.25 0.56 2.32
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce BSN 53 13 16.3 5.62 1.79 4.21 .426 1.30 3.11 .418 0.70 0.91 .771 1.19 2.25 3.43 0.96 0.26 0.25 0.28 1.75
2018-19 * Correcaminos LNBP 29 25 29.5 12.55 4.41 9.69 .456 2.45 6.31 .388 1.28 1.72 .740 2.14 4.83 6.97 0.83 0.83 0.21 1.10 3.34
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce Americas 3 0 14.5 6.67 2.67 3.33 .800 1.00 1.67 .600 0.33 0.67 .500 1.00 2.00 3.00 0.33 0.33 0.67 0.33 2.33
2019-20 Leones de Ponce BSN 4 1 16.1 5.75 1.75 4.25 .412 1.50 3.25 .462 0.75 0.75 1.000 1.00 2.00 3.00 0.25 0.75 0.25 0.50 1.75
2020-21 Leones de Ponce BSN 37 12 14.1 4.86 1.54 3.59 .429 1.27 2.97 .427 0.51 0.54 .950 0.62 1.84 2.46 0.78 0.14 0.11 0.27 1.57
2021-22 Gigantes de Carolina BSN 36 13 18.2 4.42 1.47 4.03 .366 1.19 3.53 .339 0.28 0.39 .714 0.72 2.61 3.33 1.00 0.53 0.22 0.28 1.53
2022-23 * All Teams All Leagues 28 7 13.6 4.68 1.50 3.68 .408 1.29 3.07 .419 0.39 0.46 .846 0.46 1.46 1.93 1.00 0.25 0.18 0.32 1.50
2022-23 * Indios de Mayaguez BSN 14 3 11.1 4.36 1.36 3.07 .442 1.14 2.50 .457 0.50 0.50 1.000 0.71 1.21 1.93 1.07 0.14 0.14 0.29 1.71
2022-23 * Cangrejeros de Santurce BSN 8 4 13.1 2.38 0.75 2.88 .261 0.75 2.62 .286 0.12 0.25 .500 0.25 1.12 1.38 0.38 0.12 0.38 0.00 1.12
2022-23 * Osos de Manati BSN 6 0 20.2 8.50 2.83 6.17 .459 2.33 5.00 .467 0.50 0.67 .750 0.17 2.50 2.67 1.67 0.67 0.00 0.83 1.50
2023-24 * All Teams All Leagues 12 2 18.7 5.83 1.92 4.75 .404 1.50 3.67 .409 0.50 0.75 .667 0.42 1.83 2.25 0.42 0.17 0.08 0.42 1.42
2023-24 * Osos de Manati BSN 7 0 13.8 3.71 1.14 3.14 .364 1.00 2.57 .389 0.43 0.71 .600 0.43 1.00 1.43 0.14 0.14 0.14 0.29 1.71
2023-24 * Correcaminos LNBP 5 2 25.5 8.80 3.00 7.00 .429 2.20 5.20 .423 0.60 0.80 .750 0.40 3.00 3.40 0.80 0.20 0.00 0.60 1.00

International Regular Season Stats - Totals

Season Team League GP GS MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OFF DEF TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
2011-12 Atleticos de San German BSN 34 1 271.2 95 36 93 .387 13 42 .310 10 17 .588 32 49 81 22 8 8 9 36
2012-13 Atleticos de San German BSN 36 14 627.7 198 68 166 .410 47 115 .409 15 23 .652 35 75 110 28 16 8 29 81
2013-14 * All Teams All Leagues 45 9 526.3 122 45 131 .344 18 66 .273 14 25 .560 38 71 109 38 12 11 16 66
2013-14 * Vaqueros de Bayamon BSN 38 4 317.3 62 26 68 .382 9 30 .300 1 4 .250 29 47 76 30 8 5 11 49
2013-14 * Gigantes LNBP 4 2 102.6 27 10 36 .278 5 24 .208 2 2 1.000 5 13 18 6 4 6 5 11
2013-14 * Bucaros de Bucaramga Sudamericana 3 3 106.5 33 9 27 .333 4 12 .333 11 19 .579 4 11 15 2 0 0 0 6
2014-15 Maratonistas de Coamo BSN 44 26 886.5 232 82 228 .360 45 139 .324 23 31 .742 42 116 158 46 19 20 25 113
2015-16 Santeros de Aguada BSN 48 34 1,011.5 304 97 256 .379 66 190 .347 42 55 .764 54 108 162 54 24 9 30 126
2016-17 Santeros de Aguada BSN 38 26 692 214 71 172 .413 49 132 .371 23 30 .767 30 102 132 59 8 9 21 88
2017-18 * All Teams All Leagues 49 10 812.5 275 93 211 .441 55 142 .387 34 42 .810 59 111 170 49 23 14 17 105
2017-18 * Leones de Ponce BSN 28 5 484.9 176 59 121 .488 37 87 .425 21 26 .808 31 66 97 19 14 8 10 67
2017-18 * Santeros de Aguada BSN 21 5 327.6 99 34 90 .378 18 55 .327 13 16 .813 28 45 73 30 9 6 7 38
2018-19 * All Teams All Leagues 85 38 1,761.7 682 231 514 .449 143 353 .405 75 100 .750 128 265 393 76 39 21 48 197
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce BSN 53 13 862.8 298 95 223 .426 69 165 .418 37 48 .771 63 119 182 51 14 13 15 93
2018-19 * Correcaminos LNBP 29 25 855.3 364 128 281 .456 71 183 .388 37 50 .740 62 140 202 24 24 6 32 97
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce Americas 3 0 43.6 20 8 10 .800 3 5 .600 1 2 .500 3 6 9 1 1 2 1 7
2019-20 Leones de Ponce BSN 4 1 64.4 23 7 17 .412 6 13 .462 3 3 1.000 4 8 12 1 3 1 2 7
2020-21 Leones de Ponce BSN 37 12 520.5 180 57 133 .429 47 110 .427 19 20 .950 23 68 91 29 5 4 10 58
2021-22 Gigantes de Carolina BSN 36 13 655.6 159 53 145 .366 43 127 .339 10 14 .714 26 94 120 36 19 8 10 55
2022-23 * All Teams All Leagues 28 7 381.9 131 42 103 .408 36 86 .419 11 13 .846 13 41 54 28 7 5 9 42
2022-23 * Indios de Mayaguez BSN 14 3 155.9 61 19 43 .442 16 35 .457 7 7 1.000 10 17 27 15 2 2 4 24
2022-23 * Cangrejeros de Santurce BSN 8 4 104.6 19 6 23 .261 6 21 .286 1 2 .500 2 9 11 3 1 3 0 9
2022-23 * Osos de Manati BSN 6 0 121.4 51 17 37 .459 14 30 .467 3 4 .750 1 15 16 10 4 0 5 9
2023-24 * All Teams All Leagues 12 2 224.1 70 23 57 .404 18 44 .409 6 9 .667 5 22 27 5 2 1 5 17
2023-24 * Osos de Manati BSN 7 0 96.6 26 8 22 .364 7 18 .389 3 5 .600 3 7 10 1 1 1 2 12
2023-24 * Correcaminos LNBP 5 2 127.5 44 15 35 .429 11 26 .423 3 4 .750 2 15 17 4 1 0 3 5

International Regular Season Stats - Misc Stats

Season Team League GP GS Dbl Dbl Tpl Dbl 40 Pts 20 Reb 20 Ast Techs HOB Ast/TO Stl/TO FT/FGA W's L's Win % OWS DWS WS
2011-12 Atleticos de San German BSN 34 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .055 2.44 0.89 0.18 20 14 .588 0.48 0.35 0.83
2012-13 Atleticos de San German BSN 36 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 .089 0.97 0.55 0.14 10 26 .278 0.66 0.23 0.89
2013-14 * All Teams All Leagues 45 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 .061 2.38 0.75 0.19 26 19 .578 0.37 0.20 0.56
2013-14 * Vaqueros de Bayamon BSN 38 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .048 2.73 0.73 0.06 23 15 .605 0.27 0.38 0.65
2013-14 * Gigantes LNBP 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .134 1.20 0.80 0.06 2 2 .500 -0.27 0.20 -0.08
2013-14 * Bucaros de Bucaramga Sudamericana 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .151 0.00 0.00 0.70 1 2 .333 0.05 -0.03 0.02
2014-15 Maratonistas de Coamo BSN 44 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 .097 1.84 0.76 0.14 21 23 .477 0.70 0.92 1.62
2015-16 Santeros de Aguada BSN 48 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 .101 1.80 0.80 0.21 25 23 .521 1.57 0.78 2.35
2016-17 Santeros de Aguada BSN 38 26 1 0 0 0 0 0 .110 2.81 0.38 0.17 26 12 .684 1.37 1.30 2.67
2017-18 * All Teams All Leagues 49 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 .089 2.88 1.35 0.20 25 24 .510 2.49 0.34 2.83
2017-18 * Leones de Ponce BSN 28 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .084 1.90 1.40 0.21 17 11 .607 1.29 0.54 1.83
2017-18 * Santeros de Aguada BSN 21 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .095 4.29 1.29 0.18 8 13 .381 0.71 0.40 1.11
2018-19 * All Teams All Leagues 85 38 6 0 0 0 0 0 .108 1.58 0.81 0.19 46 39 .541 5.28 0.18 5.46
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce BSN 53 13 2 0 0 0 0 0 .082 3.40 0.93 0.22 31 22 .585 2.19 0.71 2.89
2018-19 * Correcaminos LNBP 29 25 4 0 0 0 0 0 .156 0.75 0.75 0.18 15 14 .517 1.88 1.11 2.98
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce Americas 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .093 1.00 1.00 0.20 0 3 .000 0.24 -0.02 0.21
2019-20 Leones de Ponce BSN 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .067 0.50 1.50 0.18 2 2 .500 0.12 0.09 0.21
2020-21 Leones de Ponce BSN 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 .068 2.90 0.50 0.15 21 16 .568 1.29 0.50 1.79
2021-22 Gigantes de Carolina BSN 36 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 .073 3.60 1.90 0.10 15 21 .417 0.75 0.57 1.31
2022-23 * All Teams All Leagues 28 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 .080 3.11 0.78 0.13 10 18 .357 0.92 -0.07 0.85
2022-23 * Indios de Mayaguez BSN 14 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .081 3.75 0.50 0.16 5 9 .357 0.53 0.16 0.69
2022-23 * Cangrejeros de Santurce BSN 8 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .034 0.00 0.00 0.09 4 4 .500 -0.06 0.07 0.02
2022-23 * Osos de Manati BSN 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .145 2.00 0.80 0.11 1 5 .167 0.18 -0.04 0.14
2023-24 * All Teams All Leagues 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .079 1.00 0.40 0.16 3 9 .250 0.28 -0.47 -0.20
2023-24 * Osos de Manati BSN 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .042 0.50 0.50 0.23 2 5 .286 0.03 -0.15 -0.12
2023-24 * Correcaminos LNBP 5 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .137 1.33 0.33 0.11 1 4 .200 0.14 -0.12 0.02

International Regular Season Stats - Advanced Stats

Season Team League GP GS TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% TOV% STL% BLK% USG% Total S % PPR PPS ORtg DRtg PER
2011-12 Atleticos de San German BSN 34 1 .473 .457 13.60 20.52 17.09 12.69 8.22 1.58 2.42 18.40 128.49 2.11 1.02 113.2 108.4 15.62
2012-13 Atleticos de San German BSN 36 14 .562 .551 5.95 14.43 9.93 7.04 14.14 1.39 1.09 14.83 147.05 -1.66 1.19 111.6 116.6 10.59
2013-14 * All Teams All Leagues 45 9 .430 .412 8.35 15.35 11.88 10.86 10.13 1.23 1.77 13.72 117.62 1.75 0.93 104.8 112.5 9.43
2013-14 * Vaqueros de Bayamon BSN 38 4 .444 .449 10.71 16.85 13.82 13.91 13.62 1.37 1.33 11.70 93.24 2.86 0.91 112.2 111.9 9.68
2013-14 * Gigantes LNBP 4 2 .366 .347 5.29 13.29 9.36 8.88 11.94 1.88 4.58 17.32 148.61 -0.89 0.75 80.2 107.3 6.87
2013-14 * Bucaros de Bucaramga Sudamericana 3 3 .467 .407 4.01 13.11 8.16 3.60 0.00 0.00 0.00 15.42 124.56 1.19 1.22 104.3 119.2 8.69
2014-15 Maratonistas de Coamo BSN 44 26 .480 .458 5.13 14.78 9.85 7.94 9.38 1.14 2.02 13.56 142.53 0.63 1.02 108.8 110.4 9.17
2015-16 Santeros de Aguada BSN 48 34 .542 .508 5.84 11.87 8.83 7.90 9.67 1.22 0.78 13.27 148.99 0.58 1.19 117.7 112.6 10.24
2016-17 Santeros de Aguada BSN 38 26 .578 .555 5.03 16.30 10.80 12.64 10.18 0.61 1.25 13.51 155.07 2.68 1.24 122.6 105.7 11.44
2017-18 * All Teams All Leagues 49 10 .599 .571 8.59 15.53 12.13 8.70 6.90 1.50 1.59 13.76 163.76 1.89 1.30 130.6 113.7 14.39
2017-18 * Leones de Ponce BSN 28 5 .664 .640 7.43 15.02 11.32 5.69 7.02 1.51 1.41 13.41 172.06 0.55 1.45 134.8 114.6 14.19
2017-18 * Santeros de Aguada BSN 21 5 .510 .478 10.37 16.29 13.36 13.09 6.73 1.47 1.88 14.28 151.76 4.05 1.10 124.7 112.4 13.29
2018-19 * All Teams All Leagues 85 38 .611 .589 8.02 16.86 12.40 6.17 7.92 1.11 1.02 14.76 160.45 0.14 1.33 128.6 115.6 14.37
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce BSN 53 13 .610 .581 8.33 15.31 11.87 8.17 5.79 0.82 1.30 13.00 161.50 2.17 1.34 134.4 117.2 12.69
2018-19 * Correcaminos LNBP 29 25 .601 .582 7.49 18.31 12.68 4.14 9.55 1.37 0.60 16.48 158.35 -1.76 1.30 124.5 113.4 14.31
2018-19 * Leones de Ponce Americas 3 0 .919 .950 8.26 18.81 13.20 3.63 8.42 1.14 3.98 12.33 190.00 -0.74 2.00 164.7 118.9 21.75
2019-20 Leones de Ponce BSN 4 1 .628 .588 7.25 15.15 11.11 2.44 9.84 2.50 1.45 14.12 187.33 -2.15 1.35 129.2 117.4 13.75
2020-21 Leones de Ponce BSN 37 12 .635 .605 4.95 14.92 9.89 7.58 6.59 0.49 0.72 12.90 180.58 1.81 1.35 135.3 116.6 11.66
2021-22 Gigantes de Carolina BSN 36 13 .526 .514 4.49 16.23 10.36 7.55 6.21 1.51 1.16 11.03 141.84 2.11 1.10 117.8 114.3 10.03
2022-23 * All Teams All Leagues 28 7 .602 .583 3.83 12.30 8.03 10.98 7.65 0.93 1.13 13.92 167.25 2.41 1.27 122.9 116.9 12.18
2022-23 * Indios de Mayaguez BSN 14 3 .662 .628 7.22 12.98 10.02 15.26 7.99 0.65 1.12 14.57 189.90 3.83 1.42 137.0 114.3 13.95
2022-23 * Cangrejeros de Santurce BSN 8 4 .398 .391 2.18 8.82 5.68 3.72 0.00 0.48 2.33 10.09 104.66 1.83 0.83 94.6 115.5 4.38
2022-23 * Osos de Manati BSN 6 0 .658 .649 0.91 15.18 7.65 13.03 11.43 1.70 0.00 16.53 167.61 1.38 1.38 119.1 125.9 12.96
2023-24 * All Teams All Leagues 12 2 .574 .561 2.61 12.21 7.27 3.55 7.58 0.46 0.41 13.63 147.93 -0.72 1.23 112.2 130.7 9.06
2023-24 * Osos de Manati BSN 7 0 .537 .523 3.75 9.10 6.37 1.53 7.63 0.54 0.97 12.50 135.25 -1.35 1.18 108.3 133.7 6.09
2023-24 * Correcaminos LNBP 5 2 .598 .586 1.76 14.40 7.81 5.46 7.55 0.40 0.00 14.50 160.16 -0.26 1.26 114.2 126.8 10.83

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International Transactions

Feb 4, 2014 - Jose Guitian has left Gigantes.
Jan 12, 2015 - Jose Guitian has signed with Maratonistas de Coamo.
Jan 22, 2019 - Jose Guitian, previously with Correcaminos, has signed with Leones de Ponce.
Apr 19, 2023 - Jose Guitian, previously with Cangrejeros de Santurce, has signed with Indios de Mayaguez.
May 27, 2023 - Jose Guitian, previously with Indios de Mayaguez, has signed with Osos de Manati.

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National Basketball

Nationality: United States / Puerto Rico

Non-FIBA Events Stats

Year Event GP MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF Place
2013 Borislav Stankovic Cup 8 12:10 3.9 1.4 3.8 .367 0.5 1.8 .286 0.6 0.9 .714 2.6 0.3 0.8 0.0 0.6 2.2 -
AVERAGES   8 12:10 3.9 1.4 3.8 .367 0.5 1.8 .286 0.6 0.9 .714 2.6 0.3 0.8 0.0 0.6 2.2 -
TOTAL   8 97:20 31 11 30 .367 4 14 .286 5 7 .714 21 2 6 0 5 18 -