Art Thiel writes in the Seattle P-I that he still doesn't expect any of Vin Baker, Gary Payton or Ruben Patterson to be with the Sonics next season.  He says the Sonics have to get rid of these players (and their contracts) and start over.  They may have to wait until later in the summer when "there will be [other]teams who also have to unload detritus."  He says of Baker: "the Sonics have heard him promise to turn over a new leaf so many times that if they buy it once more, arrests are certain for impersonating adult human beings."  One rumor is Ruben Patterson going to Dallas, perhaps for the mid-level exception.