April 2001 Detroit Pistons Wiretap

Pistons end 7-game slide

Dec 31, 2001 3:43 PM

When the Pistons shot 72 percent in the first quarter Sunday, you had a feeling maybe the tide was turning.
  When Jon Barry was knocked to the court by Kendall Gill in the second quarter and still managed, while falling, to swish a 22-footer, you had a feeling two weeks of bad bounces and tough luck might be over.
  When the Pistons' defense forced six turnovers in the third quarter and limited the Miami Heat to 13 points, you thought maybe this losing streak was coming to an end.
  And, despite a little scare late, it did. The Pistons hung on and beat the floundering Heat, 86-80, at The Palace, ending a seven-game losing streak and winning a for the first time in 17 days.

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Players hope tide has turned

Dec 31, 2001 3:42 PM

After 17 days, the Pistons exhaled.
  After seven straight losses, the Pistons got a victory Sunday in their final game of the 2001 calendar year, 86-80 over the Miami Heat
  "It's really a burden when you start out so well and then hit the skids," Coach Rick Carlisle said. "It's hard to quantify everything that goes wrong during a bad streak. But we knew we were going to have some tough times and we said we would not overreact."
  Accordingly, the Pistons did not overreact to breaking the streak, either.
  "It was a good win, because Miami is a better team than their record indicates," Cliff Robinson said. "Teams that understand the nature of an NBA season, and understand the ups and downs that go with it, they can deal with it and come through it better. It's just a matter of maintaining belief."
  The Pistons actually felt things shift in the second half of their loss at Orlando on Friday night.

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Year brings Carlisle, promise for future

Dec 31, 2001 3:40 PM

The New Year started with a typical headline: Pistons blown out.
  Detroit closed out 2000 with a 110-96 loss to Washington. However, good things -- at least the hope of good things -- lay ahead for the Pistons in 2001. It was a year of ups and downs and lots of change. Here's a look back:

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Carlisle to Stack: stay aggressive

Dec 31, 2001 3:37 PM

Rick Carlisle wants Jerry Stackhouse, first and foremost, to stay aggressive on offense.

Setting up teammates is fine, "but we still want Jerry to be Jerry," Carlisle said Sunday before the Pistons' 86-80 victory over Miami at the Palace.

Before scoring 24 points against Miami, Stackhouse had scored fewer than 20 points in the past three games, although he had 18 against Seattle on Dec. 22 before he was ejected in the second quarter. He was just 10-for-35 from the field against New Jersey and Orlando. He made eight of 16 shots against the Heat.

The theme is to keep looking for scoring opportunities.

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Stackhouse believes Heat miss Mashburn

Dec 31, 2001 11:54 AM

Two seasons ago, Jerry Stackhouse was on a Detroit Pistons team that was swept by Miami 3-0 in the first round of the playoffs.

On Sunday, Stackhouse and his Pistons beat the Heat for the first time since April 12, 2000.

What's the difference between this 5-23 Miami team and the one that beat Detroit the past seven times they've met in the regular season of playoffs? Stackhouse says the answer is Jamal Mashburn.

"You definitely underestimate the presence of a Mashburn on that team," said Stackhouse, who scored 24 points against Miami on Sunday despite being limited to 28 minutes because of foul trouble. "That's what they're missing."

Mashburn was traded two summers ago in the deal that brought Eddie Jones to Miami. Since then, the Heat played primarily with Bruce Bowen at small forward position last season and LaPhonso Ellis and Jim Jackson this season.

Jackson has tried to be the inside-outside player Miami is lacking (he has shot 52 percent over his last four games), but his 6-foot-6 frame limits him against some of the bigger small forwards in the league. Jones has a decent post-up game but often gets muscled off the block and ends up with an isolation play on the perimeter.

"They've got (Alonzo Mourning) in the middle, Brian (Grant) can post and hits jump shots, Eddie is doing his thing coming off screens and creating problems and getting guys open shots," Stackhouse said. "I think they need that key component, even though Jimmy's been playing well, Mash could hurt you inside and out and that's little bit of something that they're missing."

? Scary moment: Jones went down in obvious pain in the third quarter Sunday after running into Mourning with his left shoulder.

It was the same shoulder Jones had surgically repaired this off-season, so the pain he felt when he went down shook the shooting guard.

"When it happened I was a little scared," Jones said. "It was stinging. When it stings like that, I was like, `Whoa.' "

Jones left the floor holding his left arm. But after stretching and icing his shoulder he returned to the game. He missed three of four shots after returning.

? Hot flashes: Heat coach Pat Riley said he has seen more consistency from Mourning recently, especially defensively.

"I'm beginning to see flashes of the old Zo more consistently," Riley said. "I think a player has to understand who he is, where he came from and what he's all about as a player. Zo was Defensive Player of the Year as a shot blocker and intimidator inside. That's where his greatness is and that's where he has to focus a lot more of his energy, defensive rebound the ball, clog up the lane and then let the offense just sort of come with it."

In his last five games, Mourning is averaging 15.4 points, 9.4 rebounds and 3.2 blocks.

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Another loss: 'We are who we are'

Dec 31, 2001 11:53 AM

That welcome sign in the Detroit airport wasn't made specifically for the Miami Heat. But it seemed everyone in Detroit was happy to see the Heat arrive.

The Pistons had lost seven in a row entering Sunday's game at The Palace, and perhaps only the Chicago Bulls would have been a more welcome sight. A Detroit radio sports talk-show host even guaranteed a win by the Pistons.

The sad truth is, Miami has become the doormat of the league. And it lived up to that label against Detroit, helping the Pistons snap their losing streak and extending its own to five games with an 86-80 loss, tying the Bulls for the worst record in the league (5-23).

"We can't kid ourselves. We are who we are," Heat coach Pat Riley said. "And in order for us to win, we have to get better."

Not only get better from one game to the next, but better from one quarter to the next. The Heat have been doing just the opposite all season, regressing as the game goes on and giving in when the opposition steps up its defense.

Brian Grant and Alonzo Mourning combined to score 40 points on 17-of-19 shooting, but only five of those shot attempts came in the second half as Miami deferred to a more active Detroit defense.

"When a defense begins to push on you and pressure you and front you and make it hard for you to move, then you have to execute harder, you have to be tougher, you have to drive the ball hard, you have to make plays," Riley said. "We start some games doing everything we know we should do. Then we revert back to non-execution, sort of selfish play, poor spacing, make offensive fouls. It just keeps adding up. It seems as though as the game progresses, we lose a focus. That's what we do. That's why we're who we are."

Once the Pistons took away Mourning and Grant, the Heat were left relying on an off-target Eddie Jones (6-of-16 from the field) and a bench that combined to make just 3-of-22 field goals, with Eddie House (1-of-11) leading the way.

After falling behind by as many as 11 points in the third quarter, Miami quickly closed to within three at 56-53 with five minutes remaining in the period. But the Heat missed their next five shots as Detroit went on an 8-0 run to build the lead right back up to 11.

"I think sometimes we tend to get a little discouraged, and then we end up having another great run," said Jones, who finished with 15 points. "The thing is to just stay strong, and if something happens wrong, you do your best to play through it."

Despite his 18-point, 10-rebound night, Mourning found himself contributing to the Heat's undoing.

"There were a couple times where I broke the play," Mourning said. "I was supposed to roll one time and didn't roll. Sometimes guys aren't getting the plays. There are turnovers, mindless turnovers. If we get random, that's when we get in trouble -- especially down the stretch."

Sunday's loss was the 10th in 13 games for the Heat during the month of December. They play Indiana tonight.

It was easy for Riley to pinpoint many of Miami's mistakes because the Pistons defense is similar to the Heat's. What he saw was the same passive team he's seen all season.

"They don't have a lot of tricks, a lot of gimmicks, they just come at you real hard and play you hard," Riley said. "So from an offensive standpoint you have to play with force and you have to make the play that's there.

"We don't have bad players, but right now we have a team that's playing bad. We don't execute."

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Motor City breakdown

Dec 31, 2001 11:47 AM

The Detroit Pistons found a remedy for their seven-game losing streak. They played the Heat.

Jerry Stackhouse scored 24 points to lead the Pistons to an 86-80 victory at the Palace of Auburn Hills, sending the Heat to its sixth straight loss. Brian Grant scored a season-high 22 points, and Alonzo Mourning added 18 points and 10 rebounds in the defeat.
But as it has been throughout the Heat's 5-23 season, the team's best was far from good enough.

"It was a defensive game as both teams were into one another," Heat coach Pat Riley said. "[Detroit] turned theirs up a little bit in the third quarter. We had a very hard time in the second half getting good shots. We got shots, but we didn't get good shots. We stopped making plays.

"We had to play with a force. That was one of the keys to the game. At an offensive standpoint we needed to play with force and had to make the play that was there. We just didn't make enough plays."

The Heat trailed by as much as 12 points in the fourth quarter before making an effort to rally. But after Jim Jackson cut the Pistons' lead to 75-70 on a pair of free throws with 3:35 to play, Chucky Atkins buried a 3-pointer from 27 feet -- his only basket of the night.

"It doesn't matter who we play, we have to play well," Riley said. "We don't have bad players. Right now we have a team that's playing bad. We don't execute. We start some games doing everything we know we should do and then we revert back to non-execution, sort of selfish play, poor spacing, make offensive fouls and it keeps adding up."

Mourning said, "We didn't execute down the stretch in making the right plays to beat them. We shot ourselves in the foot. If we cut down on the things that's hurting us down the stretch, then we'd be all right. It's the same story all the time. We get in a close game, then we start doing things to pretty much cater to the opposition."

Mourning eventually fouled out with 2:01 remaining.

The Heat stayed close to the Pistons behind the accurate shooting of Mourning and Grant. The pair combined to shoot 12 of 14 from the field in the first half. Many of their points, especially late in the second quarter, came under the basket, helping to cut the Pistons' lead to 46-42 before the end of the half.

Being down only four points at the half was remarkable with the Pistons shooting 72.2 percent in the first quarter.

The Pistons had built a 12-point lead, their biggest of the first half, when Jon Barry made a 21-foot jumper and converted a free throw to complete a three-point play with 8:53 left.

Clifford Robinson helped the Pistons rebuild their lead to 55-44 early in the third quarter with a 3-pointer.

Detroit was able to take away what Grant was hurting them with in the first half. After 16 points, Grant was held to six points in the second half.

Eddie Jones, who had 15 points, left the game with 4:06 remaining in the third quarter after bruising his left shoulder. It was the same shoulder he dislocated last season that caused him to miss 15 games.

Riley said, "As the game progresses, we lose focus. That's what we do and that's why we're where we are."

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Zo's points shrink in 4th period

Dec 31, 2001 11:44 AM

Swarming defenses and poor stamina have caused Alonzo Mourning's fourth-quarter scoring numbers to plummet, hampering a Heat offense that is often ineffective late in games. But coach Pat Riley doesn't seem concerned.

Instead, Riley on Sunday encouraged Mourning to concentrate on defense and rebounding even at the expense of an inconsistent offensive game.

Mourning entered the fourth quarter of Sunday's loss at Detroit with 16 points on 7-for-8 shooting. But Mourning, faced with double-teams, never took a shot from the field in the fourth and played just 4:41 of the quarter because of foul trouble.

Mourning committed four fouls in the fourth, and fouled out while trying to get offensive position with the Heat down 78-70 and 2:03 left. His only fourth-quarter point came on a free throw.

Since a viral infection sidelined him early in the season, Mourning has totaled just 33 fourth-quarter points in 20 games. During that stretch, he has scored more than three points in the fourth quarter only three times.

Over 23 games this season, Mourning has just 47 fourth-quarter points. His energy sapped by kidney disease, Mourning sometimes can't establish ideal position late in games. Double teams, though, are the biggest hinderance.

``There isn't a time we don't try to get him the basketball if the game's on the line,'' Riley said.

Mourning's 14.0 scoring average is well below his 20.9 career average, although part of that results from playing fewer minutes. But Riley is more interested in Mourning's defense.

``A player has to understand who he is,'' Riley said. ``Zo was Defensive Player of the Year [twice previously], is a shot-blocker, intimidator inside. That's where his greatness is. That's where he has to focus a lot more of his energy. Rebound, clog the lane, and let the offense come with it. . . . Sometimes we don't do what it is we do best.

``A couple blocks he had on [Memphis'] Stromile Swift the other night were incredible. I'm beginning to see flashes of the old Zo more consistently. I've seen some things from Zo that have really encouraged me the last couple of games.''


Spurs forward Bruce Bowen joined Tim Hardaway as the second former Heat player to imply Mourning might be better off retiring and concentrating on his recovery.
``I know Zo loves to play and that he would miss the game, but at what point do you say, `I've tried this and it's not working? Maybe it's time to try something else,' '' Bowen said.


Riley, on why the Heat is shooting just 67.3 percent from the line, ahead of only the Lakers: ``My guys will shoot 100 free throws in practice and make 80 or 90 of them. When they turn the lights on, and you can't make 80 percent of your free throws, there's something outside of the game that's bothering you.''

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Heat's skid reaches 6 games

Dec 31, 2001 11:42 AM

The Heat has become the magic potion, the perfect panacea, for ailing opponents.

The Detroit Pistons, mired in a seven-game losing streak, got healthy Sunday against a Heat team whose futility has become amazingly consistent.

This 86-80 loss -- the Heat's sixth straight -- featured the usual ingredients: sporadic offense, defensive breakdowns, poor rebounding and too many turnovers (18).

``We don't have bad players, but right now, we have a team that's playing bad,'' coach Pat Riley said. ``We don't execute. We start games doing everything we know we should, and then we revert to non-execution, sort of selfish play, poor spacing, offensive fouls. It just keeps adding up. As the game progresses, we lose a focus. . . . That's why we are where we are.''

Miami (5-23) couldn't capitalize on a season-high 22 points from Brian Grant, who shot 10 for 11. Alonzo Mourning added 18 points on 7-for-8 shooting. But the rest of the Heat shot 15 for 53.

The Pistons kept Mourning and Grant from getting off shots in the second half. Neither missed a shot from the field after halftime, Grant going 3 for 3 and Mourning 2 for 2. But they combined for just 11 points in the second half, after totaling 29 in the first.

``We had a hard time in the second half getting good shots,'' Riley said. ``They took away Brian's jumper. . . . When a defense begins to pressure and front you, you have to execute harder, be tougher, drive the ball harder.''

The Pistons, the NBA's worst rebounding team, beat the Heat 41-30 on the glass, Miami's 30 boards equaling a season low.

``The Pistons can be beat,'' Mourning said. ``We shot ourselves in the foot. It's the same story every time. We get into close games and start doing things that . . . cater to the opposition.''

Down by as many as 12, the Heat pulled to within 83-80 on LaPhonso Ellis' three-pointer with 5.4 seconds left. But Michael Curry hit a free throw, and Ellis threw a bad pass.

As usual, the Heat got unproductive point-guard play and little from the bench. Rod Strickland (eight points) missed six of nine shots and committed four turnovers. He left briefly late in the game after banging knees with Chucky Atkins.

Eddie House had a miserable night, shooting 1 for 11. Riley said he will ``eventually'' use rookie Mike James, who hasn't played in three straight games.

Reserves House, Ellis, Chris Gatling and Kendall Gill combined to shoot 3 for 22. Ellis went 2 for 7, making him 6 for his last 31.

And so it was no surprise the Heat, which ranks last in the league in scoring, failed to reach 100 points for the 28th straight game, one short of the NBA record shared by Orlando and Chicago.

``They've always been a team that has struggled to score,'' said Pistons guard Jerry Stackhouse, who scored a game-high 24. ``I don't understand that because they've got talented scorers. It baffles me how that team is 5-23 because they're much better than that.''

Stackhouse and Curry said former Heat forward Jamal Mashburn -- sent to Charlotte in the Eddie Jones trade -- was ``underestimated'' and is badly missed.

The season has deteriorated so badly, the Heat can't even avoid doing damage to each other. Mourning inadvertently knocked the ball out of Grant's hands when Grant had a layup attempt in the first quarter.

In the third quarter, Jones bruised his left shoulder when he ran into Mourning's elbow. ``It was scary,'' said Jones, who had surgery on the same shoulder in May. ``It stung, but I'm fine.''

Jones had 15 points and six steals but three turnovers.

One encouraging sign was the play of Grant, who entered shooting 40.5 percent.

Grant consistently hit his jumper for one of the few times this season.

``Wide-open shots,'' Grant said. ``Unlike past games, I took them.''


The Pistons hit 16 of their first 22 shots to go up by 12, then cooled off, finishing at 46.2 percent. But the Heat was held below 82 points for the sixth time in its past nine games.

``We have a lot of breakdowns at both ends, and then we tend to get discouraged and have another breakdown,'' Jones said.

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Heat struggle with chemistry

Dec 30, 2001 3:01 PM

As bad as things are going right now for the Pistons -- and with seven straight losses, things are going mighty badly -- there is always somebody who has it worse.
  Take tonight's opponent, for example. The once-proud and powerful Miami Heat come limping into The Palace with the second-worst record in the NBA, and riding a five-game losing streak.
  "It's not working, that's all there is to it," said Heat Coach Pat Riley after his team lost to the Memphis Grizzlies at home Friday. "We are just fumbling and stumbling around."

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Sunday: Heat at Pistons

TONIGHT: HEAT AT PISTONS

Unlucky seven

Carlisle: Shake-up not ultimate cure

Magic End 3-Game Losing Skid, 87-78

Hill tries to cope with injury

Magic end slump, beat Pistons

Magic shackle Pistons to break 4-game skid

Magic scratch, claw way to win

Players search for any answers

Rare win on glass not quite enough

Magic host Pistons

Magic scouting report

Magic still miss Wallace

Players seek lost intensity

Carlisle wants to keep team on course

Pistons' shooting needs to warm up

Restoring gritty 'D' is Carlisle's priority

Pistons regrouping after terrible trip

Carlisle comes down hard, citing lack of effort